Discussion in 'Crossbow Hunting Room' started by warthog67, Nov 6, 2008. warthog67 Guest. I ask because we have a goofy buck … Yes , the odd buck will be a spike more than once , but are not common unless something is really way out of whack. Facebook. James Kroll did this study back in the late 80's by taking a spike that was captured, and let him grow for the next 5 years. It will interesting in seeing what he is next year. Some spikes are genetically inferior but even those don't necessarily remain spikes in following years. SHARE. Tools of the Trade . By huntadmin - October 27, 2016. “Once a spike, always a spike.” Hardly. Really? Great Article. I was talking to a friend the other day about how our seasons were going. Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? On deer farms, they get young buck spikes, even with a 180 class father. "Why didn't you shoot them"? Let me know what Yall think! 6. Once a Spike, Always a Spike: It's Deer Hunting's Big Myth Posts: 48,623. RE: once a spike always a spike? Rules and Announcements. Inlines & Percussions Talk . Archery Hunting. 0 0. It’s easy to say “Once a spike, always a spike,” but people who live and breathe this stuff will tell you, it’s not quite that simple when deciding whether to cull spikes off your hunting property. Facebook. Hunters are better informed these days but there is still a lot of misunderstanding about spike bucks. 99% of them are 1-2 1/2 year old bucks with 12+ inches of antler growth. we have a 3 point rule state wide, so it's not even legal to kill them anyways. I saw that article also. Others say that a spike is your 1st year buck/bull then the next year a fork, then so on..and so on...continuing to a trophy racked animal. 0. He asked what I had been seeing and I mentioned I had seen about 3 spikes. Let's get this debate started! “A lot of people believe that a spike will have a spike rack throughout its life, but the research says that’s simply not true. ok what has people thinking that a spike is once a spike and always will be a spike or small buck if you belive it its not true The answer to that is CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY" NO! Article from deeranddeerhunting.com. There's so many factors that determine why a spike is a spike. New Members . [Re: Leonardo] #6390739 08/01/16 09:48 PM: Joined: Apr 2007. Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? I have seen it 1st hand on the deer farm at LSU. They may, on average, grow smaller antlers (debatable) but most of them will become at least branch antlered bucks if allowed to live. Can someone answer that question for me from the biology standpoint? your password Most always they do catch up, so if they do not they are the exception not the rule. Or expected to throw spikes the following year. 669. A friend of mine emailed it to me and I thought it was very well done. [Re: Leonardo] #6390739 08/01/16 09:48 PM: Joined: Apr 2007. I have been told that a spike is a sign of poor genetics and that the formulation of antlers will not change over that deer's life. Unicoidawg Moderator. Not always but if they do not catch up that would or is a rarity. Metroplex. How can listeners get in touch with you to learn about your wildlife services? That is, one side looks pretty much like the other. SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE ADD TO FAV ORTIES. General Board. Anyone have any idea? He was able to get photos of one buck with every rack he ever wore starting with his spikes. So before I start smoking spikes, I’m focusing my efforts on running down the number of mouths my environment has to support. The pedicles provide the structural base for the future development of antlers. Ammo … /r/QDM: News, resources, and discussion about creating better habitats and healthier wildlife. Antler size has more to do with stress levels and nutrition in the 1st 2 years than it does with genetics. Turkey Hunting. “The ‘once a spike, always a spike’ maxim should be dead, but unfortunately it’s not,” said Lindsay Thomas of the Quality Deer Management Association. Charles Alsheimer did a very interesting piece on a very unique piece of ground in upstate New York. 46 members in the QDM community. It just can't be blamed on poor genetics. The answer to that is CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY" NO! True or false? That is, one side looks pretty much like the other. Herd density, quality of habitat, amount of rain, mast conditions the previous year, is the doe mother a yearling with her first fawn. Everybody has heard the old line,”once a spike, always a spike.” It’s been proven time and time again to be a myth but some things die hard. LINK This photographer was able to follow the journey of this buck throughout his life and show his growth over the years. True or false? A spike as an investment the Product Owner makes to figure out what needs to be built and how the team is going to build it — in advance of actually building it. 0. of late. This article may have been shared before here so forgive me if it has. Macy, thank you for answering these critical questions we hunters face every season. It is old school mentality that a spike will always be a spike, just like you should NEVER kill a doe. Sponsors . I have heard old timers ask us to shoot the spikes off of their property while hunting as to remove the small bucks from their gene pool on their land. "Yeah, but once a spike, always a spike," he said. This poor and somewhat embarrassing photo dug out of my ancient archives supports the point of this column. 801. NOYDB BANNED. Article by Deer & Deer Hunting. In the latest issue of Deer and Deer Hunting they had a pic of the same buck for 12 years. By huntadmin - October 18, 2017. your own Pins on Pinterest I'm on several hunting pages on Facebook and now that most of the bucks are done growing I'm seeing more and more posts about if they need to cull big spikes. Jan 20, 2007 #5. From there, Buffy conducted her relationship with Spike—which was mostly sexual, at first—in secret. Bear and Elk Hunting Forum. Yearling spikes are not a concern. your username. It was once commonly believed that, “Once a spike, always a spike.” But research indicates that this isn’t necessarily true. Field Gear and Gadgets . White-tailed deer tend to grow antlers that are fairly well-balanced. ive heard over the years once a spike always a spike. But the OP's question was: "once a spike ALWAYS as spike, T or F??" I have posted a link to an article. Well I may have mispoken a bit in my first post...nothing is "proven" to be set in stone fact. 12/9/14 @ 5:09 PM. Twitter. Welcome! I told him that as part of our management program there are regulations on the antler size of bucks that you can take. Jan 20, 2007 #5. Once a Spike, always a Spike. Messages: 112 Likes Received: 6. Where did the notion of "once a spike, always a spike" come from? A focus on Quality … Flintlock talk. SHARE. Twitter. Jan 20, 2007 #6. Some spikes are just late born fawns from the previous year, usually birthed by yearlings, conceived during the second or third rut. He asked. Back to top. There is always some different factors, but for the most part, it is caused by a lack of nutrition. Forum Rules, Suggestions, Troubleshooting. spikes; Uncategorized; Once a Spike, Always a Spike: Deer Hunting’s Big Myth. Noted deer authority Charles Alzheimer once raised a spike on his N.Y. farm at six years old it was a Massive twelve pointer! I'm not a believer in "Once a spike, ALWAYS a spike" but in this case it might be true. Metroplex. Log into your account. The spikes that show up on your land likely wasn't born on your land, they probably came from a few miles away when their doe mother pushed them away. It was a spike for the first picture and grew into a 170 class buck. Spikes are almost always young bucks wearing their first set of antlers. Can culling bucks with a spike on one side "get them out of the gene pool" or is this just one of deer hunting's long-held and untrue myths? In the individual ,or the habitat. Discover (and save!) Big Game Hunting. The little spike grew into a booner, just proving that it is usually caused by a lack of minerals and nutition. But the OP's question was: "once a spike ALWAYS as spike, T or F??" Last year we got a pic of this spike still in velvet around October 10 (date on the pic is wrong). Once a Spike, Always a Spike Posted by Shepherd88 on 3/16/15 at 9:44 am. So my dad wants venison on the table and my last 3 times out i could have shot these 3 different spikes and i keep passing because i NEVER shoot small bucks, but my dad said once a spike, always a spike and then i just saw a post where a guy shot a spike and he said that same spike … But if you see a Spike on a 5.5 or 6.5 year old body, more than likely he may always be a Spike? It's anyone's guess why that upsurd or ridiculous rumor started (once a spike always a spike). New Hunters and Need Help with the Hunt. Don't know of such a regular occurrence around Mi. The Product Owner allocates a little bit of the team’s capacity now, ahead of when the story needs to be delivered, so that when the story comes into the sprint, the team knows what to do. Hope that's not the case cause I have around 15 small bucks on my place that go from a 1 point, to a spike, 3 point, and several 4 points with a lot of junk on them. Once a spike always a spike? Back when a hunter’s only question was “Does he have horns,” we filled lots of tags with spikes … I have killed 2 spikes this year, both are mature deer (3-4 year). Jan 20, 2007 #6. They may, on average, grow smaller antlers (debatable) but most of them will become at least branch antlered bucks if allowed to live. Once a Spike, Always a Spike: It's Deer Hunting's Big Myth. This year he is almost exactly the same. ORIGINAL POST. White-tailed deer tend to grow antlers that are fairly well-balanced. Posts: 47,284. Some think that once a spike, always a spike. Once a Spike Always a Spike? Once a spike not always a spike....I'll try and find the issue and post it.... Unicoidawg Click to expand... i hope you can find the issue,love to read it.thanks . spikes; Uncategorized; Once a Spike, Always a Spike: Deer Hunting’s Big Myth. 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